Podcast Episode - To Bring Up A Child With Care and Affection



May 07, 2022

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For Mother’s Day 2022, Suze and KT share an emotional email from Ayanna, a domestic abuse survivor. You can hear Ayanna’s original episode here: https://bit.ly/3LWgRQ8


Podcast Transcript:

00:00:34
Suze: May 8, 2022, I have a surprise for all of you. KT is here. KT is in the house now.

00:00:43
Suze: I sat down this morning

00:00:46
Suze: to do an entire podcast that was like happy Mother's Day. But then I go on to do a financial forecast for the last half of this year

00:00:56
Suze: and I sat here and I sat here and I thought about everything

00:01:01
Suze: and KT was walking back and forth going in and out and finally I said, KT,

00:01:07
Suze: I'm changing what we're doing today. I need you to come in and help me.

00:01:13
Suze: Even if it's just to sit here and talk with me because here's the bottom line because you missed me. I always miss you

00:01:19
KT: know the audience misses me on Sunday.

00:01:24
KT: They do.

00:01:24
Suze: I think it's true.

00:01:25
KT: Everyone do you all miss me on Sunday? I know that Suze School is really

00:01:29
Suze: important. Do you know that they're writing in and they say that they like our banter and our interaction more than Suze School. Can you believe that

00:01:37
KT: you're gonna love today than especially mommies?

00:01:41
Suze: But we have an update, We have an update for all of you.

00:01:45
Suze: You know how we asked you right in and give us your answer

00:01:51
Suze: to if that destination wedding wedding mother who couldn't afford to go, do you think her son knew her financial situation or did he not? And Ms Travis in her sweetness. You're so sweet. They all love your sweetness.

00:02:08
KT: They should you have to be kind

00:02:12
KT: wait tell everyone there's a lot of listeners maybe that don't know that

00:02:17
Suze: question. Okay,

00:02:18
KT: so I think it was just last Thursday, we get a question. And it was a mother whose son is having a destination wedding. We think it's in Europe or Paris someplace anyway, she

00:02:31
KT: absolutely could not afford to go and attend her son's wedding.

00:02:36
KT: And she was asking Suze, listen, the only way I'm going to do this. If I really max out and get further and deeper in debt. Long story short, Suze took a poll. How many of you think

00:02:49
KT: that she should go? Suze told her

00:02:51
Suze: that she shouldn't go. How many people out there thought

00:02:56
Suze: that her son

00:02:58
Suze: knew how bad of a situation she was in, financially speaking? Or did he not know? Because if he knew, how is it possible that he could have done a destination wedding? Although KT's twin sister, Lynn, Hi Lynn , I know that you're going to be listening to this

00:03:16
Suze: educated me

00:03:17
KT: on that.

00:03:19
Suze: It's usually the bride's parents that plan the wedding

00:03:24
Suze: and where it's going to be and everything. Maybe her son didn't know about it at all. But that's not the point.

00:03:30
KT: The point is that we were curious what you all thought and I said to Suze, I said

00:03:36
KT: her son should absolutely pay for his mom, wasn't it? If she wanted to KT, you are

00:03:42
Suze: off track. KT's always off track. Here.

00:03:46
KT: Come

00:03:47
Suze: on KT stick with me here, baby doll. The question was, did her son no

00:03:54
Suze: of her financial situation or did he not know,

00:03:59
KT: I voted that he definitely didn't know.

00:04:00
Suze: And I said he definitely knows a lot of you wrote in on the women and money app. You can all go and read those. And then even more thousands of you wrote in on the email account. Ask Suze podcast at gmail dot com

00:04:17
Suze: And 5 : one.

00:04:19
Suze: You agreed with KT.

00:04:20
KT: Yes, thank you. I was right.

00:04:23
KT: I don't think that

00:04:24
Suze: doesn't mean you're right.

00:04:26
KT: But wait, let's talk about mothers.

00:04:30
Suze: But anyway, I just wanted to update all of you that the majority of you thought that he did not know now I wrote this woman back

00:04:40
Suze: and she did not answer me. So if you probably won't, she may be mad at me. But don't be mad at me if you're mad at me. Really. Just

00:04:49
Suze: just let's educate everybody, including yourself. But that's the results of the poll.

00:04:55
Suze: So before No, no, no. Before we start, what is with you today? I'm not inviting you on Sunday anymore. Anyway, before we start

00:05:08
Suze: on our Mother's Day podcast,

00:05:10
Suze: I just want to say something. Today was going to be financial forecast day. Suze School on what I wanted you to know about the stock market, gold, real estate interest, rate, mortgages, all of that. I was going to tell you everything I wanted you to know.

00:05:31
KT: But

00:05:31
Suze: I just couldn't do it on Mother's Day. So next Sunday I will be doing it. But until then

00:05:38
Suze: if you have a large sum of money. If you're thinking about investing, if you have this plan that you want to do, can you just not do anything at all

00:05:50
Suze: until next Sunday? Okay. Now what do you have up your sleeve? She has this look on her face everybody. And every time

00:05:59
KT: I'm about to do everyone really

00:06:02
KT: is special because of what Suze believes that we Suze and I are not mothers and her definition is that we don't have nor did we bear Children. However, I disagree with MS Orman.

00:06:19
KT: Now I'm calling you Ms Orman because you call me Ms Travis when it becomes important when you

00:06:23
Suze: disagree with me,

00:06:24
KT: I disagree with

00:06:25
Suze: that. I can disagree

00:06:26
KT: with you and everybody listen up and Suze. You listen very carefully. I have an email here that's extremely special. And the subject says mother

00:06:37
KT: to bring up a child with care and affection.

00:06:42
KT: I think that's a term. I don't know if that's the term from the dictionary but that was the headline of this email ready. Everyone,

00:06:50
KT: even though I'm no longer a child, I met a woman named Suze.

00:06:57
Suze: Oh she's crying. It's okay to cry KT. You can read it. Come on baby doll.

00:07:03
Suze: You chose it somehow.

00:07:06
KT: I read this a million times everyone but it's already because I'm in the room looking at Suze, this is making me a little bit emotional. So wait a minute. All right,

00:07:18
Suze: you can do it. They all know you get emotional.

00:07:21
Suze: That's why I love her everybody.

00:07:23
KT: Even though I'm no longer a child. I met a woman named Suze.

00:07:29
KT: She took me into her life mentally and treated me with care and affection.

00:07:35
KT: I was broken mentally and Suze knew it.

00:07:39
KT: She said to me, here is some money. So you and your kids can eat so you can survive. I'm shocked. Suze is giving me money. There must be a motive. I'm scared. I thought no one, especially a stranger, was ever so kind to me and my children.

00:07:57
KT: Man, Suze, You really helped me to pick up the pieces that were broken. You continue to show me you care

00:08:05
KT: for years now. You still are there for me. You kept giving and giving.

00:08:11
KT: Not money. Just someone who cares about me and man, You helped me put my life on track

00:08:18
KT: my mental status as well.

00:08:21
KT: We don't even get to see each other daily nor physically.

00:08:26
KT: Suze. You taught me money can help you to survive and live comfortably.

00:08:31
KT: But also taught me your health is so important.

00:08:36
KT: Now, I know why people go insane and do harmful things and mess up their life because of money.

00:08:43
KT: Like you said, you control the money. Don't let the money control you anyway. When I'm trying to say Suze

00:08:52
KT: is that you are one of my mothers and I'm so so thankful for you.

00:08:59
KT: Thank you, Suze for helping. Thank you, Suze for being real

00:09:04
KT: thank you Suze for caring.

00:09:06
KT: Thank you Suze for showing affection.

00:09:10
KT: I know I may never see you again,

00:09:14
KT: but it's always cool to get a text from you once in a blue moon. It keeps a smile on my face. Happy Mother's Day, Suze.

00:09:24
KT: Do you know who it's from? Tell everybody I can't talk anymore.

00:09:29
Suze: It's from a woman by the name of Ayanna.

00:09:34
Suze: And I've talked to all of you about Ayanna over all these years.

00:09:38
Suze: In 2018

00:09:41
Suze: I met Ayanna

00:09:43
Suze: and a group of other

00:09:45
Suze: women who survived domestic abuse

00:09:48
Suze: and I was asked by Avon would I interview them and help them

00:09:55
Suze: because they have been through horrific

00:09:58
Suze: physical and mental torture

00:10:01
Suze: and that always results in financial abuse and could I help them?

00:10:06
Suze: and Ayanna at the time was 35 years of age again, this is KT back in 2018 girls and she has two

00:10:16
Suze: little girls, they're not so little anymore.

00:10:19
KT: One

00:10:20
Suze: is anyway, and she literally was almost on the streets.

00:10:25
Suze: She had no money. Her refrigerator was empty. What she had gone through was absolutely amazing

00:10:33
Suze: and tragic and in fact, I did an interview with her KT, I don't know if you remember this,

00:10:39
Suze: we put it on the Women and Money podcast

00:10:42
Suze: and

00:10:43
Suze: I think it was November of 2019. I could be wrong but right in there. We aired the interview that I did in 2018 with Ayanna, I let all of you hear it

00:10:56
Suze: and over the years

00:10:59
Suze: I've become very close with her but only through text

00:11:03
Suze: at one point she said to me,

00:11:05
Suze: I don't really believe it's you because I've never heard your voice,

00:11:09
Suze: how do I know

00:11:11
Suze: that? It's you?

00:11:12
Suze: And so for that one time I called her and I said it's me, Ayanna, it's me.

00:11:18
Suze: But I think KT, the reason that she wrote that

00:11:21
Suze: and I wanna thank you for writing that

00:11:24
Suze: is we were texting the other day about a situation she again got herself into and

00:11:33
Suze: she said, so how are you going to celebrate Mother's Day? And I said, Ayanna , KT and I both have lost our mothers,

00:11:43
KT: we

00:11:43
Suze: don't have children

00:11:45
Suze: so we're not mothers.

00:11:48
Suze: So we're not really going to celebrate it for us. We celebrate it for everybody else besides us.

00:11:56
Suze: And she said

00:11:58
Suze: you're my mama, don't tell me that you're the only mama I really have, you've been there for me and she said, so don't say that you're not a mother.

00:12:09
Suze: And I said okay Ayanna. So obviously

00:12:12
KT: that's why she sent this with the with the term mother to bring up a child with care and affection.

00:12:20
Suze: So

00:12:20
KT: Suze you've been caring with affection

00:12:23
KT: and great guidance actually for quite a few years now.

00:12:27
Suze: Yeah, for four years. But and the truth is I'll be there really for Ayanna's the rest of her life

00:12:34
Suze: because when somebody has nobody,

00:12:37
Suze: when somebody doesn't have anybody to turn to

00:12:40
Suze: and they've been through the physical, psychological, mental and financial abuse

00:12:47
Suze: that this woman has been through in her life.

00:12:51
Suze: I don't know it gives me a

00:12:52
KT: great

00:12:53
Suze: but what

00:12:54
KT: what I have to just say to people so that they understand Suze's not... Suze doesn't finance and give her money. She gives her tough love. You've been tough with her big time.

00:13:06
Suze: I've met some of her needs when she would have been on the street

00:13:10
Suze: and with food

00:13:11
KT: and with her without asking.

00:13:13
Suze: But not that much right and she doesn't ever ask.

00:13:18
Suze: But I know when things have gotten really, really rough.

00:13:22
Suze: So an extra $200 there, maybe $300, not large sums

00:13:27
Suze: can really

00:13:29
Suze: change somebody's life.

00:13:31
Suze: So that was sweet KT. But

00:13:34
Suze: I think it's true, maybe we are mamas yeah. You know a lot of times when you don't have children of your own or even if you do

00:13:44
Suze: sometimes somebody who is really in need

00:13:47
Suze: of love and affection and caring, caring

00:13:50
KT: more than anything

00:13:51
Suze: is something that all of us

00:13:54
Suze: hopefully are capable of doing all right

00:13:58
KT: to all the mommies out there, congratulations,

00:14:03
KT: love up your babies or your grown up children,

00:14:06
Suze: all the children out there, love up your mothers and the greatest gift that you could give all of them

00:14:15
Suze: is for you to be financially independent for you to know all the financial situations that you should be aware of in your life and that you never give a destination wedding that your mother can't go to. That's what I say. All right, everybody until

00:14:32
Suze: Thursday with the true ask, Suze and KT. Anything. What do you want to say, girlfriend?

00:14:38
KT: Alright, Mom, Stay safe. Strong and

00:14:41
Suze: set your happy mother's Day. Everybody and Robert...

00:14:45
Suze: Tell your mama, KT and Suze say Happy Mother's Day. Bye bye.


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